Цели

Jun. 1st, 2017 03:43 pm
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Российское вторжение кстати сделало нам невероятный подарок. Смысл. Цель. Точнее несколько целей для украинцев и Украины.

Далекая цель - это расчленение России ибо пока в ее перерождение мы не верим. Не могут эти 146%, желающие смерти моей стране, переродиться. Не в этом поколении.

А пока наш противник сильнее нас (экономически, военно, внутриполитически, ресурсно). Поэтому промежуточная цель - вступление в НАТО и ЕС. Потому что, на моей памяти, было несколько случаев, когда россияне на гавно исходили в отношении нескольких стран и национальностей, обвиняя в предательстве и фашизме (страны Балтии, Болгария, Хорватия и т.д.), но резко попускались после их фактического вступления в НАТО. И совсем уже отпускало их после вступления в ЕС.

Т.е. по шакальи щериться как герой Промокашка из известного советского сериала они еще продолжали, но не более того.

Поэтому цель номер раз - НАТО. Ориентировочно 2020 год, плюс еще 2-3 года, зная наше головотяпство и западную медлительность бюрократической машины.

И цель номер два - ЕС. Ориентировочно 2025 год, плюс еще 3-5 лет по тем же причинам что и выше.



Всех в Украине кто против этих целей - я считаю предателями и российскими коллаборантами.

На этом пути, кстати, у нас на удивление пока все идет бодренько. Совместные учения, НАТОвская техника и инструктора, безвиз, ассоциация с ЕС, реформы под гнетом требований МВФ и проч.

Цель номер три - это превращение РФ в несколько компактных и неебанутых государств. Потом их можно будет по очереди интегритовать в ЕС.

Хорошие и четкие у нас цели, в отличие от российских. А, главное, реальные.

Hasta la victoria siempre, camarades!!
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Date: 2017-06-01 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] putin-huil0.livejournal.com
Толика в президенты! \0
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Date: 2017-06-01 12:53 pm (UTC)
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А какже легалайз всякого такого ? ну хто знает тот поняв обчом я .

Date: 2017-06-01 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] putin-huil0.livejournal.com
Што лично ты сделал для легалайза? За три года можно было бы добиться организации особой зоны, сделав ее туристической Меккой. Где-нибудь на юге, например в Херсонской области.

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Date: 2017-06-01 01:12 pm (UTC)
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ТікиТак!!!

Date: 2017-06-01 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] igorsova.livejournal.com
Я за членство України в НАТО, але проти членства України в ЄС. Інтеграція можлива будь якого рівня, але краще мати власну валюту і власні закони які можна буде змінювати іс блискавичною жвидкістю на вимоги конкретних реалій, а не чекати дозволу європейських чиновників із якоїсь Чорногорії чи Нідерландів.

Date: 2017-06-01 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] putin-huil0.livejournal.com
Получается шо вы без уважения относитесь к евро-мечте Евро-майдана?

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Date: 2017-06-01 01:33 pm (UTC)
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Ну... насчет Балтийских стран разговор особый. Да, с верхов РФ последняя истерия была наверное насчет изваяния в Таллине. Что, впрочем, не дает никаких гарантий на будущее.
А вот у рядовых скрепоносцев при любом упоминании о всяких там латышах, пердак разрывает мгновенно. Ещё бы - эти суки, нацики, фошизды прибалты при же первой возможности, без каких либо разборок, истерий, объяснений, хлопанья дверью, даже нормально, по скрепному не послав нахуй, взяли да сьебались. А потом еще дружно счет за вынужденную возню в СССР выставили. Какой либо уважухи - совсем ноль, и этот вынужденный брак эти гады трактуют не просто неравным, но просто нелепым... они же суки открыто брезгуют всем величием русского мира!!! Просто, нагло и в глаза брезгуют....
Мало того, нечто похожее случилось и почти 100 лет тому назад, когда они таким-же макаром оставили в дураках все величие позапрошлой версии. И все 100-200 летние труды обратить их в русских - как с гуся вода. Ну не хотят суки деградировать хоть ты что... Не то что там всякая чудь...

Date: 2017-06-01 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Юрий Карасев (from livejournal.com)
Вы о прибалтийских вымиратах так высказались, отказав им в деградации? А вот в самих вымиратах ноют в ужасе от темпов вымирания населения и потери всего российского транзита...
Это ваша цель? Что ж, сами захотели...

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Date: 2017-06-01 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pn kn (from livejournal.com)
Потом их можно будет по очереди интегритовать в ЕС.
ни в коем случае
это должны быть резервации или тематические заповедники, в которые можно будет ездить на сафари - посмотреть на экзотический ruskij mir, ненадолго окунуться в атмосферу dukhovnosti, поохотиться на медведей, поесть репы

Date: 2017-06-01 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] used-against.livejournal.com
Проблема в том, что начав за здравие, вы кончили тем, что стали в разы более ебануты, чем Россия.
После чего потеряли какое-либо право нам что-то говорить.
Вы не просто несвободная страна, вы страна зашоренная, запропагандированная, озлобленная, не думающая. Подтверждающая поэтапно все штампы путинской пропаганды против вас. Русские сейчас просто образец цивилизованности по сравнению с вами.
Поэтому лучше заткнитесь и займитесь своими проблемами.

Date: 2017-06-01 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewavr.livejournal.com
Бгг. Вот это бомбануло.
А когда хуйло публично лижет кости дохлого старикашки - это образец цивиливованности?
Кацап, нахуй пошел.

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Date: 2017-06-01 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] look-y.livejournal.com
т.е. про самостийнисть речь уже не идёт. а как же: запанум браття у своий сторонци?

Date: 2017-06-01 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewavr.livejournal.com
Кацапы проходят нахуй.

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Date: 2017-06-01 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stepanbezusov.livejournal.com
Вы, наверное, этого не замечаете, но Вас уже от антиукраинского тролля отличить нет никакой возможности.

Date: 2017-06-01 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voron-mudrez.livejournal.com
тонкий троллинг украинцы не понимают,
а толстый троллинг принимают всерьез.

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Date: 2017-06-01 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vli1910.livejournal.com
В некоторых странах русофобия хлещет через край - заявило заплаканное Хуйло.

Date: 2017-06-01 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Юрий Карасев (from livejournal.com)
Ну вы сами такого президента себе выбрали. Только и умеет плакаться о "российской агрессии" и попрошайничать по миру. )

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Date: 2017-06-01 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlasovetz55.livejournal.com
"Hasta la victoria siempre, camarades!!"

Почему не на великой и могучей/квитучей мове?
Edited Date: 2017-06-01 02:22 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2017-06-01 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogovsky.livejournal.com
Оружие РФ это коррупция
Победим коррупцию - подымем экономику
Ну а с сильной экономикой уже совсем другой расклад

Date: 2017-06-01 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ralnikov.livejournal.com
Хорошие и четкие у нас цели, в отличие от российских. А, главное, реальные.
Всегда уважаю людей с хорошим, циничным чуством юмора :)

Date: 2017-06-01 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kampfflieger.livejournal.com
А они тебя нет. Тебя, бутылочная насадка, вообще никто не уважает, потому что ты выглядишь как чмо.

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номер три не катит , минимум 2-3 поколения изоляции а там будем посмотреть (если будет на кого..бггг)

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Date: 2017-06-01 03:16 pm (UTC)
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Очередные хохломрии. Наследство гетьмана Полуботка и золотые унитазы Януковича уже поделили?

Date: 2017-06-01 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onchuka.livejournal.com
ты зачем зассал цельный стадион, назалупник джыгита?

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Date: 2017-06-01 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr ice (from livejournal.com)
2030 год. Грузовики с львовским мусором ловят по всей Европе.

Date: 2017-06-01 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onchuka.livejournal.com
а твою жёппу ловят чечены уже сейчас, ггг

Date: 2017-06-01 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pasha-kiev-ua.livejournal.com
С целями согласен.
Только один вопрос - а если неебанутых на территории бывшей педерации не окажется?

Date: 2017-06-01 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latch-locker.livejournal.com
Не "если", а "когда".

Вопрос что делать с целиной, думаю, не самый, на данный момент, актуальный.

Date: 2017-06-01 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graf-kankrin.livejournal.com
Панове, у вас вже грошей зовсім немає (http://graf-kankrin.livejournal.com/31059.html), про що ви мрієте? - поки сонце встане, роса очі виїсть...

Date: 2017-06-01 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onchuka.livejournal.com
почему ты не на мосту ка-дырова, обоссаный кокошник?

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Date: 2017-06-01 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bukoed.livejournal.com
Для вступления в НАТО необходимо отсутствие территориальных споров с соседями.
То есть Украина готова отказаться от претензий по Крыму?
Edited Date: 2017-06-01 03:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-01 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kampfflieger.livejournal.com
К тому времени Крым вернем и споров не будет.

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Date: 2017-06-01 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trasylo.livejournal.com
Хорошая платформа у автора, поддерживаю. Империю Зла нужно добить, а там и блудящих в руссофашизме (узком мире) можна, по крайней мере до Урала подтягивать в Святую Соборную Европу - пятый Рим.

Пока что Пакс Романа представлен четвёртым Римом - США. Но будет и пятый

А шестому Риму не бывать.
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Date: 2017-06-01 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miroman.livejournal.com
для нато надо с непризнанными территориями порешать вроде.
или нахуй решать?
Edited Date: 2017-06-01 04:11 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-01 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] npubop.livejournal.com
кто тебе рассказал про нато и непризнанные территории, бестолочь? )))

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Date: 2017-06-01 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andreyioanov.livejournal.com
нет такой нации как украинцы. Есть русские живущие на украине которые предали своих сородичей и желающие пристроить свою жопу получше. И как бы там не было но всей страной в нато вы не уйдете, возможно только западным куском от территории. Ну так это ваше дело.

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